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Thomas Built Buses recall FL-841

Thomas Built Buses calls it FL-841. NHTSA filed it as campaign 19V869000 on Dec 6, 2019: engine and engine cooling on the 2020–2021 Thomas Built Buses SAF-T-Liner C2, 145 vehicles potentially affected. One recall, two numbers — the dealer quotes the manufacturer’s, the federal record carries NHTSA’s.

What NHTSA has under this number

Source: 49 CFR Part 573 filings
NHTSA campaignVehiclesComponentFiledAffectedSeverity
19V8690002020–2021 Thomas Built Buses SAF-T-Liner C2Engine And Engine CoolingDec 6, 2019145moderate
Problem Daimler Trucks North America LLC (DTNA) is recalling certain 2020-2021 Thomas Built Saf-T-Liner C2 school buses equipped with Detroit Diesel DD5 engines. The fan hub bolts may have been may have been insufficiently tightened. Risk The loose bolts can cause the fan to damage surrounding components and/or detach from the engine, disabling the bus and resulting in an evacuation in an uncontrolled traffic situation, thereby increasing the risk of an injury. Fix DTNA will notify owners, and dealers will inspect and repair the fan hub bolts, as necessary, free of charge. The recall began January 16, 2020. Owners may contact DTNA customer service at 1-800-547-0712. DTNA's number for this recall is FL-841.

The manufacturer’s own words as filed for 19V869000. Every model year it covers, the build window and the filed PDFs →

Two numbers, one recall

Every safety recall carries two identifiers. FL-841 is the number Thomas Built Buses assigned in its own system: it is what appears on the owner letter, on the dealer’s service screen and on the repair order. 19V869000 is the number NHTSA filed the same recall under when the manufacturer reported it, and it is the one every federal record, this site included, is keyed on.

The repair is free by federal law for vehicles up to fifteen years old. Whether one particular vehicle is included is settled by its VIN against the manufacturer’s build list, not by its model year.

Check one specific vehicle

Both lookups check a VIN against the manufacturer’s own list and say whether the repair is still outstanding on that vehicle.

Common questions

Source: NHTSA, 49 CFR Part 573

Is FL-841 the same recall as 19V869000?

Yes. FL-841 is Thomas Built Buses’s own number for it; 19V869000 is NHTSA’s. One recall, two references.

Which vehicles does FL-841 cover?

2020–2021 Thomas Built Buses SAF-T-Liner C2, 145 vehicles by the manufacturer’s count. A recall covers a build range, so the VIN decides whether one particular vehicle is in it.

Does the FL-841 repair cost anything?

No. The manufacturer must remedy a safety defect at no charge for vehicles up to 15 years old from first sale.