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Honda preliminary evaluation PE13024

Inappropriate autonomous braking. NHTSA’s Office of Defects Investigation opened this preliminary evaluation about the electronic stability control on 2 model years (2007–2008). Opened Jun 25, 2013, closed Nov 4, 2013 after 4 months. It led to safety recall 13V500000. became a recall

What NHTSA says

Source: Office of Defects Investigation, as filed

In a letter dated October 31, 2013, Honda Motor Company (Honda) submitted a recall notice to NHTSA's Office of Defects Investigation describing a defect in the Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA) system in approximately 344,187 model year (MY) 2007 and 2008 Honda Odyssey vehicles produced from August 8, 2006 through September 8, 2008 (NHTSA Recall 13V-500, Honda Recall JC5).The report describes a defect condition caused by a combination of VSA system components and software that is unique to the MY 2007-2008 Honda Odyssey vehicles. The condition may result in unexpected brake application by the VSA system with no brake lamp illumination. The braking forces resulting from the condition can approach the maximum braking capability of the vehicle. Honda's investigation determined that (1) if the yaw rate sensor off-set exceeds a certain value, (2) the sensor calibration is not completed before the vehicle starts moving after start-up, and (3) the vehicle is driven in a specific manner; the VSA system may build hydraulic pressure in the brake system resulting in heavy, unexpected braking without the driver applying the brake pedal. Honda estimates that the parts necessary to correct this condition will not be available until March 2014. Pending part availability, Honda will send interim letters to affected owners including instructions to avoid the defect condition using a procedure to ensure proper VSA system calibration after each vehicle start-up, as well as instructions about what to do if unexpected brake application occurs while driving. Once the remedy parts are available, Honda will send a second notice advising owners to bring their vehicle to their dealer for installation of a redesigned yaw rate sensor. This investigation is closed.

Stage Preliminary Evaluation — NHTSA works to complete one within eight months Opened Jun 25, 2013 Closed Nov 4, 2013 Manufacturer Honda (American Honda Motor Co.) Components Electronic Stability Control Resulting recall 13V500000

A Preliminary Evaluation is the first formal stage: NHTSA has decided the complaints and other information it screened are worth a closer look, and asks the manufacturer for its own data on the condition. The summary is the agency’s own text from its investigation file, unedited; the opening and closing resumes with the full reasoning are on NHTSA’s site under this number.

What this means for an owner

Source: and what happens next

An investigation is not a finding that a defect exists, and it puts no duty on anyone. NHTSA opens a Preliminary Evaluation when complaints and other reports suggest a condition worth asking the manufacturer about; it upgrades to an Engineering Analysis when the answers warrant testing; it closes either when it recommends a recall, when the manufacturer recalls on its own, or when no defect trend is found. The agency’s own goals are about four months for a petition, eight for a Preliminary Evaluation or a Recall Query and eighteen for an Engineering Analysis; many run longer.

This one became a recall. The campaign page carries the manufacturer’s filed defect, risk and remedy, the build window and every model year covered; whether one specific vehicle is included is settled by VIN at nhtsa.gov/recalls.

Model years it names

Source: as NHTSA filed them

Also named: 2007 Honda Odyssey; 2008 Honda Odyssey.

A vehicle page’s investigation list carries the same action; a name here is the scope NHTSA opened, not a list of affected VINs.

Common questions

Source: NHTSA Office of Defects Investigation

Is PE13024 a recall?

No — it is the investigation that led to one. Recall 13V500000 is the campaign; its page carries the remedy.

Is PE13024 still open?

No. It closed on Nov 4, 2013 and led to recall 13V500000.

Which vehicles does PE13024 cover?

NHTSA opened it on 2 model years: 2007 Honda Odyssey, 2008 Honda Odyssey. That is the scope of the inquiry, not a list of affected vehicles; a recall, if one follows, defines its own population by VIN.