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Honda preliminary evaluation PE11034

Unexpected Closing of Power Liftgate. NHTSA’s Office of Defects Investigation opened this preliminary evaluation about the lock on 2 model years (2008–2009). Opened Sep 23, 2011, closed Feb 29, 2012 after 5 months. It led to safety recall 12V062000. became a recall

What NHTSA says

Source: Office of Defects Investigation, as filed

The investigation found that the liftgate struts were failing prematurely and at an abnormal rate in certain model year (MY) 2008 Honda Odyssey Touring and 2009 Honda Odyssey Touring and EX-L model vehicles equipped with power-operated rear liftgates (note: MY 2008 Odyssey EX-L was not equipped with a power liftgate).Unlike vehicles with non-powered (manual) liftgates, the subject vehicle's liftgate can be opened automatically (via the power liftgate motor) even when the struts are in a degraded condition and can no longer support it in the open position. Consumers standing or accessing the rear cargo area under the liftgate and expecting the liftgate will stay open, can be struck when the liftgate unexpectedly drops, or can be trapped under the liftgate as it power closes, both of which can occur when the system detects and reacts to degraded struts. By contrast, users of a manual liftgate assist in lifting it, and thus notice the lack of support as the struts degrade. Honda is conducting a recall to replace the liftgate struts in approximately 45,747 MY 2008 and early MY 2009 Odyssey vehicles equipped with power liftgates built before a manufacturing change of the liftgate strut assembly that occurred on January 13, 2009 (see NHTSA Safety Recall No. 12V-062 for further details).The vehicles subject to the recall account for 101 complaints, 12 injuries, and 5,630 of the warranty claims shown above (i.e., the MY 2009 and 2010 vehicles built after the manufacturing change experience lower failure rates).In addition, and based on consumer complaints to NHTSA, Odyssey vehicles without power liftgates experience lower complaint and injury rates than the Odyssey vehicles equipped with power liftgates (subject vehicles).The reports cited above can be reviewed online at www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/owners/SearchNHTSAID under the following identification (ODI) numbers:10442027, 10441232, 10437461, 10432557, 10430420, 10429962, 10412908, 10401388, 10395475, 10390216, 10343678, 10336744, 10294156

Stage Preliminary Evaluation — NHTSA works to complete one within eight months Opened Sep 23, 2011 Closed Feb 29, 2012 Manufacturer Honda (American Honda Motor Co.) Components Latches/Locks/Linkages › Hatchback/Liftgate › Lock, Structure › Body › Hatchback/Liftgate › Hinge And Attachments, Structure › Body › Hatchback/Liftgate, Structure › Body › Hatchback/Liftgate › Support Device/Strut, Structure › Body › Tailgate › Hinge And Attachments, Structure › Body › Tailgate Resulting recall 12V062000

A Preliminary Evaluation is the first formal stage: NHTSA has decided the complaints and other information it screened are worth a closer look, and asks the manufacturer for its own data on the condition. The summary is the agency’s own text from its investigation file, unedited; the opening and closing resumes with the full reasoning are on NHTSA’s site under this number.

What this means for an owner

Source: and what happens next

An investigation is not a finding that a defect exists, and it puts no duty on anyone. NHTSA opens a Preliminary Evaluation when complaints and other reports suggest a condition worth asking the manufacturer about; it upgrades to an Engineering Analysis when the answers warrant testing; it closes either when it recommends a recall, when the manufacturer recalls on its own, or when no defect trend is found. The agency’s own goals are about four months for a petition, eight for a Preliminary Evaluation or a Recall Query and eighteen for an Engineering Analysis; many run longer.

This one became a recall. The campaign page carries the manufacturer’s filed defect, risk and remedy, the build window and every model year covered; whether one specific vehicle is included is settled by VIN at nhtsa.gov/recalls.

Model years it names

Source: as NHTSA filed them

Also named: 2008 Honda Odyssey; 2009 Honda Odyssey.

A vehicle page’s investigation list carries the same action; a name here is the scope NHTSA opened, not a list of affected VINs.

Common questions

Source: NHTSA Office of Defects Investigation

Is PE11034 a recall?

No — it is the investigation that led to one. Recall 12V062000 is the campaign; its page carries the remedy.

Is PE11034 still open?

No. It closed on Feb 29, 2012 and led to recall 12V062000.

Which vehicles does PE11034 cover?

NHTSA opened it on 2 model years: 2008 Honda Odyssey, 2009 Honda Odyssey. That is the scope of the inquiry, not a list of affected vehicles; a recall, if one follows, defines its own population by VIN.